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Advice on undetectable
Return to DiscussionsIf a pos man faithfully takes meds and is undetectable, am I, a neg man, sane in taking his cock bare?
Yes and no.
My boyfriend is hiv+ and im hiv-, we do BB the last 6 years and im never got hiv+. (Im top he is Bottom). We has bin in a studies for 3 years, here in DK, but it goes all EU around. And the result is, that if you REALLY now that the persons hiv+ is undetectable and he takes the medicine everyday, he will not infection you. As they say at the hospital, you will be more safe whit your boyfriend, than if you fuck a guy that tell you that he is hiv-.
But but but... you have to trust that person that is hiv+ and know it for 100 % that he take his medicine everyday.
Go to the CDC website and read their stats. If memory serves, they say that HIV+, undetectable and med compliant is 98% safe. A condom is only 80% safe.Get on PrEP anyway if you are negative. It is easy and safe and will be the end of HIV if everyone actually does it.
Undetectable means untransmittable. there has to be virus present in his blood and semen and undetectable means zero with the testing we have today, based on the knowledge of 30+ years of study, culminating in now over 15,000 serodiscordant couples showing zero cases of transmission where the protocol was followed . HIV+ means "has antibodies to the HIV virus" antibodies are an immune response and NOT a virus themselves. Being positive means your immune system has been exposed to the virus. It does not mean you can transmit. To transmit, you must have a significant viral load (that is copies of the virus in your bloodstream, an amount that is even larger for transmission via seminal fluid because virus doesn't show up there immediately), and a partner who is willing to forgo safer sex.
If you like raw sex, you are taking a risk. You cannot mitigate or reduce that risk by sero sorting your partners according to who says they are "neg". That's because men lie, and the status is only as good as your last test, with no sex or other risk indicated activity in between. The sane thing to do is not trust guys who (statistically speaking) are both unaware or deceptive about status and who are by far and away the largest group where transmission is occuring still.