This site is called "TRUESWINGERS".......Not ......."TRUEGAYGUYS"!
The reason that "TRUENUDIST" started up this site "TRUESWINGERS" is for the simple fact, that for some unfortunate reason, Nudists and Swingers mix together like Oil and Water.The same holds true for either the Truenudists sites not being accepting of "Sexually Obsessed" "Jerking Off" "GAY males", on the Chat Forums, and that same feeling applies to the TRUESWINGERS sites ( Like this one was intended for) and seeing the same "Sexually OBSESSED" "JERKING OFF" GAY Males dominating the Chat Forums with their consistent GAY unwarranted advances towards the TRUE Swinging "Couples" on this site.
"Gays".......errrrrrr.....I meant Guys, you are obviously on the "WRONG SITE"!No where, is there any mention of this being a TRUE "GAY" Site......as the name "CLEARLY States", this is a SWINGERS Site.......NOT A GAY SITE!
What is the definition of a Swinger, you might ask?If you were actually a SWINGER?........You would not be asking that question!Below is a Definition, that we found on another Swingers site that we are members of.We are not Homophobic at all, and we are not Anti Gay in any way....what so ever.But......we are some what offended and TURNED OFF, by nothing "BUT".......SINGLE "GAY GUYS.......trying to take over a site, that was intended for TRUE "SWINGERS"!The Gay guys, ( The Sexually OBSESSED CREEPY ones) offended "EVERYONE" on the True Nudist site.......so......by starting up a "SWINGERS" Site......they just thought,.......that the Perverted ones.....the ones who are constantly Foaming at the mouth......the Creepy ones,........you know who they are.....the ones who need the different sites, to get their Cheap "JERKING OFF" thrills on, they thought.........that these CREEPS, would just Disappear.Geez........it is no wonder, that 90% of all of these Single GAY guys, on a "SWINGERS" site.....have to "Jerk Off" to other Creepy looking Gay guys on their Cams!
Definition of Couples who are Swingers and Swinging itself:Swinging, which also called partner swapping (and in the old days, before the TV show, "wife" swapping), refers to a sexual activity where people in "committed relationships" have sex with other people, usually also in committed relationships. Swinging has been the subject ofdocumentaries,feature films,books, and at least onenetwork TV series. In public, swinging is represented almost "exclusively by" middle class, "heterosexual", "married couples". This may or may not be the case behind closed doors, but the white "married" suburban couple remains the face of swinging in the public sphere.Swinging usually takes place at private parties where "couples" arrive together, have sex with others, and then go home together. Unlikepolyamory, swinging focuses almost exclusively on the sex (it has also been called "sports fucking" by some who engage in it), and "couples" usually agree to avoid any emotional connection or relationships with the people they have sex with. One of the main tenants of swinging is that the "couple" always goes home together.It's hard to say how many "married couples" or how many "heterosexual couples" in a relationship, engage in swinging, however a 2010 study that looked at swinging, found that about 56% of all heterosexual married couples or heterosexual couples in a committed relationship, have experimented in some form of a swinging activity, at some point of their relationship.The activity of swinging is strictly confined to heterosexual married couples, and to couples in a committed relationship.There are some exceptions to swinging, when it involves single heterosexual males, who are involved in 3 somes or gang bangs with other committed heterosexual couples.Bi play amongst females is very accepted and common practice amongst swingers, where as Bi males are not widely accepted, in any culture.The importance of the social aspects of swinging differs from individual to individual and community to community, but the fact that swinging is also known as "the lifestyle" demonstrates that, for some at least, swinging is about much more than casual sexual hook-ups.
I think a "couple" can be defined as heterosexual or homosexual when it comes to swinging. I agree though, that swinging usually has nothing to do with just jacking off on cam. I am gay ...while I don't mind seeing guys stroking, I don't think that was the intention of this site. I also feel that all the strokers aren't all gay guys, but straight men that are exhibitionists. Most of the guys on here have no profile or pics so it's hard to tell where they fit. Yes, this site is true swingers, but I think most of the guys who want to stroke on cam in a nudist environment have migrated here from TN. Its a new site..I hope things will sort themselves out. Maybe a better name for this site would be True Sex
Very good reply.I agree. that a name change might be in order, just based on what we have seen, so far on this site.It is definitely not very well titled at this time.But having said that.......it still is......called ...."TRUESWINGERS"!We are in No Way, Homophobic at all, but Swingers and Gays mix together much like Swingers and Nudists do.It just doesn't work.....at all.Each to their own.Having said that.......This is a "SWINGERS" SITE.......it is not a site, for "SINGLE" ........"GAY MEN".There is a Place and a Time for everything.This Place is for "SWINGERS" and it si Time for the Gay "SINGLE" Males....to find their own site....or have Truenudists create a site, for just the Gays!That would be the most obvious solution.In the mean time, it would be really nice to see the Gay Males, conduct themselves as ADULTS, while on the Chat Forum.There are Gay Males on there, from latter 20s right up into their 70's, who act like 13 year old Immature school boys, who have never seen a cock or a pussy ever before, not to mention....ever have the chance to ever Play with either one or the other.It is these same Childish Gay males, who were not welcome over on Truenudists, anymore than us "Real Swingers"....appreciate their Childish Sexual "Non Stop" Kindergarden comments, over on a TRUE "SWINGERS" site!This site is for "SWINGERS".........and "Swingers" are predominately "Heterosexual COUPLES" and made up of "Married couples" or "Couples" in a "COMMITTED Relationship".The "TRUE GAY" SITE, is for anyone that does not fit the above requirements.
As a single male , I agree with the original poster that swinging is a couple activity and singles (especially males) dont have any major role to play in it . Most single males, who joined this site are desperate for sex and apart from getting to see some pornographic photos , they wont get anything else on this site . I am very sure that no swinging couple would invite a single male to their place .
Having said that , I dont think TT1 started this site exclusively for swingers . Looking at the number male members (especially the certified ones) , it seems he created for anyone who misinterpreted nudism and had joined TN for the fulfillment of their voyeuristic and exhibitionistic desires . As far as the name is concerned , TrueSwingers is fine and renaming it to TrueSex would make this site a pornographic site . It would also harm the reputation of TN since it is affiliated to it and even nudism to a certain extent since TN is the most popular nudist site on the web . Swinging is more acceptable than open sex and it acts as a cover to hide other activities being carried out on TS in the name of swinging .
FIf admin was uncomfortable with TS clientele, its "flavour" and contrary to its intent in creating it, I would have thought it would have acted by now to rectify that. Maybe time will tell.
I think the TS site is turning into what TT1 intended. Another site called hangoutnude shut down about the same time TS started up. Many of the members of that site have come here.
Under pressure from the real nudist click at TN, TT1 had to clean that site up to the point that it was no longer what I believe he originally intended for it to be. For example, many of the provocative photos in the gallery were uploaded by TT1. And he used to post that kind of photos on the old home page before the new site. But now, TN has been cleaned up to a large extent, so TT1 created the TS site.
And I agree that the name Trueswingers wasn't the best choice for this site. But I'll be danged if I can think of a better name for it offhand.
Time will tell whether the legality of the content on the TS site will be challenged. And whether the companies that provide TT1 with their services to keep the TS site up and operating will continue to stick their necks out, considering the legal liabilities. If those companies lay down the rules to TT1, he will have to clean this site up as well.
I am writing without seeing the context due to IE9 incompatability but essentially I agree with the original intention of this quote. My ex GF often felt uncomfortable with the behaviour of some gay guys at Sydney nude beaches where some of them could be very overt on what was close to a normal public beach. I don't want to be a hyocrite because we both enjoyed some play and the excitment of being both voyeurs and exhibitionists. We all know the debate about beach closures etc so I am not going to rehash that. Most people who are swingers or have attended parties know most are run with well known rules or guidelines, No means no etc. As for beaches reprts etc for many single males there is enormous frustration because many partners are not keen to join them, so they end up alone on beaches attemtping to enter a resort club that allows them etc, being frustrated sometimes their judgement becomes poor or unwelcome; not an excuse but it puts things into context. In many anglo countries the beaches are populated with guys and in places like Sydney and SF many gay guys. Its a mixed crowd and I am happy that many are also accepted by resorts and I know 2 lovely gay south african guys in a resort south of Sydney. Years ago they would not have been made welcome by many but the resort owners have always been non judgemental. Another point referred to above was the closure of another site hangoutnude which I tried, and clearly people will look and try other sites, like much of society we are a very mixed group. On TN I engaged in frequent debates with many yankees and we had many a disagreement especially with social conservatives, some of whom will end up voting for people or politicans would abore their chosen lifestyle, so there are many contradictions. Clearly replicating the other database has caused problems but it seems these are being addressed. The net allows people to explore an interest or just curiousity so lets remember whilst many are not card carrying experienced swingers lets remember people should be made welcome as long as they remember to learn and show appropriate respect.
Some of our BEST sexual times have been MFM's. We have found that the more egos that are involved= the greater potential for disaster!!!!MFM's seem to be the easiest. It works like this..... Obviously the male in the couple is for it or it wouldn't be happening. That goes for the female too..... But she is able to reap all of the benefits that four hands, two sets of lips, two tongues and two penises have to offer. The second male (outsider) is just happy to be there. It's a winning combination! Personally, I'm NOT gay or bi in the least. The second male is there for my wife's benefit only. It's GREAT because she always turns into a total cum machine when this happens and is a true joy to behold!!!!! Less than a year ago, I was the second male in a MFM for the first time. I had always wondered what this would be like. I can honestly say that it was a mind blowing experience for me. The couple were very nice and gracious and we went at it for several hours. MFM's are the way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are all kinds of combinations with other partners and swinging not just MFM. There are a lot more swingers that are interested in FMF. The reason being there are a lot of females who swing that are bi or bi curious and want the feel of a woman. There are just as many men who don't mind screwing someone elses wife but don't want anyone touching theirs. With enough searching though there are couples who actually swap partners for the sake of sex. That is the ultimate goal for us and a whole bunch more true swingers out there. If you really want to have a blast try MFMFMF with like minded friends who have no issues. Now thats erotic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My swinging partner, my wife, passed away. For nudist and swinger purposes I am considered a single. The statement that no swinging couples will meet with a single male is a falisy. I have met with many couples who enjoy the presence of a bi sexual male. I also have l single lady friends that join me on occasions with these couples. Enjoyable times are had by all. Homophobia has no place in swinging. Remember the old saying, "when you point at others, three fingers point back to you." Swing on my friends.
My swinging partner, my wife, passed away. For nudist and swinger purposes I am considered a single. The statement that no swinging couples will meet with a single male is a falisy. I have met with many couples who enjoy the presence of a bi sexual male. I also have l single lady friends that join me on occasions with these couples. Enjoyable times are had by all. Homophobia has no place in swinging. Remember the old saying, "when you point at others, three fingers point back to you." Swing on my friends.
You are not or anyone else is going to talk the majority of swinging couples to have the man be part of a gay sexual encounter? There are real swinger sites out there that are a whole lot older and better run by the way than this one. There are a lot of bi or bi curious males to say the least. The majority of swinging couples though do not want any part of a bi or bi curious relationship with another man. Even the women are reluctant to play with a gay man. We have been in this little game for about three years now and have met a lot of couples and singles. There are some granted but the majority do not want male to male play! It by the way is not homophobia it is called sexual preference.
Please do not misinterpret my statement. I respect your preference. I have had many MFM encounters where the male was straight and all attention is paid to the female with no problems. I am not advocating the preference of a gay in a MFM or in one case a MFMFM party. I only believe that couples should make whatever choice is comfortable with them.
An expert? Oh god no, in no way and really don't want to be. For some this is their life for others which I would like to think we are this is a lifestyle. We have fun with the right people. Will it never be MFM of course not. The wife has already been offered that and just wasn't in the mood at that particular time. Could it or will it be offered again? I would be lieing if i didn't say yes. FMF much more not likely to happen she prefers men! Have I been to parties or meet and greets that are loaded with single guys. HELL YES. Did I get in a fight NO. Did my wife flirt with single guys? Yes. I was saying most of the couples we know would prefer a single woman to join them not a single guy. For a lot of reasons not just the jealous factor. We are going to a meet and greet this weekend. Will my wife flirt with guys that are alone? Yes. It is a Mardi Gras party will she show them her tits? Yes. She also has coins and necklace coins which she will give away to guys who show her their cock. Do you think she will give any away? Yes she will. Will she end up fucking one of those guys? I hope so because I know the sex she has next with me will be awsome! Was I jealous the first time I saw her screwing another guy even though I was fucking their wife? Yes I was. Did it stop us? No. Have we seen marriages destroyed by this lifestyle????? You bet we have. We know between us it is only sex. We know who we will be going home with and in bed with when it all said and done.
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